Episode 24: Thinking about disability, and the art of Wabi Sabi

Grace talks about the Carle Museum having a diversity audit, and they discuss representation of diversity in children's book publishing. Alvina takes a trip down memory lane and recalls the saga of the missing art for Wabi Sabi by Mark Reibstein, illustrated by Ed Young, including how Alvina left the art on a MetroNorth train. And, they end as always with what they're grateful for.

Episode 23: Staying relevent! And bestsellers!

Grace and Alvina talk about how to stay relevent in the children's book industry, including graphic novels, podcasting, and more! They also remember the first time one of their books hit the New York Times bestseller list. And then end as always with what they're grateful for.